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Tamara's avatar
1dEdited

Leave the religious charities alone. Our little United Church wouldn't survive without being a charity. Here's a radical idea for federal and provincial governments ...how about we stop giving taxpayers money to the so-called Muslim, Hindu, India, Chinese special interest groups, LBGTQ++++, BLM, environmental activists "charities". That's a massive problem. We're paying foreign groups to destroy ourselves.

Carney doesn't care one iota about "building a better world for all” . He only cares about building a better investment portfolio for himself and his buddies.

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Pauline Chartrand's avatar

Actually what Carney wants is to enforce the policies of the World Economic Forum in Canada. He destroyed the UK, and now he will do the same thing to Canada.

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Maelrom's avatar

Carney is just a puppet, just like trudeau. They and trump and pierre are all actors, to keep you distracted from the creeping evil thar is rising. Yes his job is to tank canadas economy, as the UKs and the States too so that he can then beg the WEF to swoop down lift oyr debt then claim all of our assets and FINALLY ,conglomerating north america into a more manafeable land mass...after tgey rry to kill most you off to getter done

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Pauline Chartrand's avatar

The depopulation agenda is very clear on this subject, they don't even hide it. 4 B less humans by 2050. Can you imagine what is ahead of us?

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Maelrom's avatar

Yes. Seems they are rushing things, makibg blunders because they are rushing their timeline. Lots of stuff going on. Even that nay be a distraction from something greater about to rock this world

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Sandi Nichol's avatar

The Liberal party’s new religion.

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Maelrom's avatar

Yes. In the end the goal is to disrupt the lifeline of good will, if not abolish it. I can see christmas being attacked soon. This should then lift any notions of what we have here…

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Maelrom's avatar
5hEdited

Beware of articulate speakers that would steer you away from meaningful assessment of the importance of the topic material. ‘Distractions’. Remember, they have eyes and ears, they arent zombies yet

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Cassidy Scott's avatar

Here's relevant information about a "one world religion" from a former South African Satanist.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DL7_rl8uDrm/?igsh=cmlhbWE5OXljMnp1

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Maelrom's avatar
5hEdited

Much searing evidence has been wiped from the mainframe. Perhaps only existing in personal file vaults. The elite have propensity to brag and joke about their accomplishments

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Pauline Chartrand's avatar

Thank you for sharing and it did not surprise me one bit. I've always been a believer, but not in religion. I will never be, nor adhere to any religion. They are all the same, created by men to serve men. Keep God our of religion, he has nothing to do with it.

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Maelrom's avatar

It is a satanic takeover of the entire G7. I warned many times for many years

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Pauline Chartrand's avatar

You are right, but still, no one listen!

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Maelrom's avatar

They are not ready for that level of well ...darkness at this time

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Pauline Chartrand's avatar

No one will never be ready for that truth. I've known for a few years now and I am still mad as hell.

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Maelrom's avatar

They wont gave a choice. All will recwal themselves as their timeli ne falters

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Pauline Chartrand's avatar

I know that you are right. The one that won't or refuse to wake-up will be left behind. Unfortunately, this include people I love and cherish.

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Maelrom's avatar

Mm, in numbers, you will fain, waking as .any up as you can..use care..we ARE targeted

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Maelrom's avatar

I know.. its very defeating...however. how they battle, at this time, is psychological.of coarse they use people. As in canada. Aust. UK they create chaos, to have you dishevelled while they set up shop. The only people to rely on are ordinary people just like you. Help each other disconnect from the matrix. By supporting each other within the communities you will create. do not fear focus on a healthy community apart from the system

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David's avatar

Bible Prophecy being fulfilled?

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David's avatar

Revelation 12;12.

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Darcy Hickson's avatar

It is quite a number of years ago that I agreed to be a participant in a phone survey conducted on behalf of the federal government. The survey was designed to elicit feedback from citizens about religion, religious activities and charitable status and tax breaks for those who support charities.

This turn of events is no surprise considering the snail’s pace of policy change in Canada. But it is a foreboding sign of other things in the policy pipeline that the Liberals deny at every opportunity: annual federal tax on home valuations.

In the meantime, charitable causes are providing support for the immigration disaster, homelessness, addiction and poverty. The soup kitchens have support from many levels of government but faith based groups are in the midst of a lot of the on the ground delivery. This deserves federal government recognition and support instead of pulling the rug out from under them.

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Carm D's avatar

You will never see governments "feeding" their citizens. It's only faith based charities that do so. Starve the people, make them weak and sick so they cannot rise against you. This is the communist way.

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David's avatar

The company Carney works for borrowed 250 million dollars from China in 2020. Any connection? China is highly regarded by the UN.

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Maelrom's avatar

Your first hint was when justin vocolized his admiration of the ccp governmental structure, BEFORE he moved into the castle on the hill.

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Maelrom's avatar

Correct! Do not accept any thing else other than the community you share information with. Know thy neighbour. If the eyes don't shine, then the smile appears from the shadows. In these trying times decernment is life saving!

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Emily's avatar

If there was ever any doubt that the latest version of the Canadian Liberal is communist, this move should remove all doubt.

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David's avatar

Interesting dialogue that might shine a light on where we are now.

https://youtu.be/FLii7HPsFmc?si=xeXf6e2Na-T2LH4g

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Beth's avatar

It is the absolute goal of the WEF UN GLOBALIST ELITISTS to achieve WORLD DOMINATION, which includes; one world government, military, monetary and medical systems, and to 'create' THEIR RELIGION for the world to abide by. In essence, their sole mission is complete control over the human race, whilst we're still in existence. Canada is quickly falling into a socialist totalitarian society and given how our policing services and judiciary are operating, one may conclude that our military may follow suit in defending a socialist regime dominating this country vs the democratic principles Canadians fought two world wars, were maimed or died for in defending, to keep this country prosperous and intact. The WEF GLOBALISTS have used the age old warring tactic of 'divide and conquer' to maintain control over citizens essentially by pitting us AGAINST EACH OTHER via the promotion of certain religious faiths and strongly opposing, if not damning others. I recommend

two books by Dr. John Coleman worth reading: ONE WORLD ORDER: SOCIALIST DICTATORSHIP and CONSPIRATORS' HIERARCHY: THE STORT OF THE COMMITTEE OF 300.

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David's avatar

We need a visit from Armageddon. ie "When the wicked will be no more."

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NoNameVanMan's avatar

Your ilk have been calling for the "end of days" since the beginning of recorded history. Do you ever get tired of being wrong? And FYI, the "globalist cabal" you need to worry about are the billionaires feeding you nonsense about the culture war and end of times, and watching you vote against your own economic and health interests.

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andersm0's avatar

More likely than not it's desperation for tax revenue. The Liberal madcap spending is going to blow up the Carney government.

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JBen's avatar

Amen! Well written and explained. Thank you Elbert King Paul.

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Gil schiller's avatar

Any one thinking carney came back to help us is in NY view completely delusional. As his back ground indicates he is no different than Trudeau.

Canadians are getting awfully use to being manuliplated.

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Katarina Glozic's avatar

Mark Carney is an evil person.

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Peter of Canada's avatar

Mark Carnage

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Darcy Hickson's avatar

The Finance Committee would mess their pants if there was a groundswell of public support for eliminating tax receipts for donations to political parties and candidates. If I am forced to underwrite tax benefits to political parties that don’t align with my political views, then Finance Committee members can leave faith based groups with charitable status alone and look inward for ways to find government savings.

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Kevan Hudson's avatar

Excellent point about the 75% tax deduction for donations to political parties and electoral campaigns at the provincial and federal levels.

Even though I have given money to people I know running for office I would love to see the end of the political donation deduction at 75%.

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Mike Canary's avatar

The preamble to the Canadian constitution reads: Canada is founded recognizing the supremacy of God, and the rule of law. Since 2015, these important principles have been continually undermined by the federal government. Canadians really need to pay attention to what is going on. Silence is no longer an option. 🇨🇦

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Drew Snider's avatar

An important part of the equation that is often overlooked is the number of people who benefit from charitable work / religious advancement, and how our country benefits as a result. Places like the Mustard Seed Street Church in Victoria (where I pastored until last October) serve the "street community", which generally includes people bereft of hope in this world; think, also, of the people who've been searching for a meaning for life and their own existence, which religious organizations offer. The benefits from that to our society are incalculable and should be recognized through the tax-exempt status. And from a purely religious point of view, as Elbert Paul notes, our Constitution begins by recognizing the primacy of God; our national motto is derived from Psalm 78; even the crown at the top of our coat of arms is topped itself by a Cross. God is recognized throughout our official institutions, and we have lived in peace and prosperity for over 150 years (especially when compared to other countries on this continent). Is that a coincidence? Do we want to mess with that?

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Aristophanes's avatar

Thank you for sharing such a thoughtful and heartfelt defense of the role that religion plays in public life and charity. There is much to admire in the values of compassion, service, and human dignity that animate so many faith-based organizations across Canada. These values are often expressed in tireless work for the poor, the sick, the displaced, and the grieving. Their contributions should be respected and, where measurable public benefit is shown, supported.

That said, the government’s proposal is not a rejection of religious freedom or spiritual contribution. Rather, it is a call for neutrality and consistency in how charitable status is awarded in a modern, pluralistic society. The proposal does not prevent religious organizations from being recognized as charities. It simply asks them to demonstrate the public benefit of their activities just as other organizations must. Feeding the hungry or sheltering the vulnerable remains plainly charitable. What is being reconsidered is whether advancing religion in itself—regardless of what that entails—should automatically enjoy tax benefits funded by the public, including those who may not share those beliefs.

As Canada becomes more diverse and more secular, the automatic presumption that promoting a particular set of metaphysical views is inherently charitable may no longer reflect the shared values of the broader public. Removing this privileged status does not diminish the good works of religious groups. It simply places them on equal footing with secular nonprofits. That, in its own way, is a gesture of fairness.

Religious freedom remains fully protected under the Charter. What is at stake is not freedom to worship or to serve one’s community, but whether the state should continue to underwrite activities that may not yield demonstrable benefit to society as a whole. This is not a new idea. In fact, it recalls the spirit of the Enlightenment, when societies began to separate public reason from private belief. Like Voltaire, who famously defended the rights of religious minorities while also arguing against the power of established churches, we can believe deeply in freedom of conscience while also insisting that the public sphere remain accountable to reason, evidence, and common ground.

In that light, this policy is not about exclusion. It is about building a charitable sector where all organizations, sacred or secular, earn their place by the good they demonstrably do.

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Randy Boehm's avatar

You make some rather good points Aristophanes. What concerns me though with what you argue is that it transfers much of the decision of what is a worthy charity to the government rather than the supporter of the charity. Do I support a worthy charity that a government does not approve of, with already taxed money? Or do I support a government approved charity with untaxed money?

The other matter that I wonder about is how much serious abuse of the charitable status exists. Is this an extensive problem? Has it gotten significantly worse in the past half century? or is some of the push for this due to the governments coveting more tax dollars.

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David's avatar

How much abuse is there of our tax money by the Liberal Party of Canada?

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Darcy Hickson's avatar

Canadians are slowly realizing that in the hierarchy of Charter Rights, freedom of religion is running a distant race behind the competition.

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David's avatar

Carney's vision of Canada's future is not shared by me. I hazard a guess I'm not alone.

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Randy Boehm's avatar

Yes, our human rights are under attack in Canada. The central issue with respect to human rights is whether they come from God and constrain government, or whether they are merely granted to us by governments. Rights granted by governments can be capriciously ignored, changed and removed by governments.

I can, absent a belief in your or any God, strongly recognize that human rights must come from God and bind governments because the alternative of relying on human rights that are defined and granted by the government of the day is so absurd. If the government gets to define the rights then the rights become arbitrary and temporary.

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Darcy Hickson's avatar

In a broader context, the pandemic gave us a glimpse of the arbitrary allocation of Charter Rights and the ability of government and government officials to strip these rights away without any checks and balances. Despite numerous legal challenges against the government(s) during this period, very few cases snarled their way through the courts to reach legal precedents for the future. Most cases were abandoned when restrictions on mobility and association were lifted.

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Aristophanes's avatar

I hear the concern about the fragility of rights when they appear subject to the whims of the state. That tension between government authority and individual freedom is not only real but foundational to any healthy democracy. Yet part of what allows rights to endure is our collective ability to define them through transparent laws and public accountability. If rights are granted only by divine authority but enforced by fallible institutions, we still face the challenge of interpreting and protecting them through human systems. That is why ongoing public dialogue, judicial oversight and civil society engagement remain essential regardless of how we philosophically ground our freedoms.

On the question of charitable status specifically, I do not think anyone is suggesting that faith-based groups should be excluded from public life or charitable work. The proposal merely opens space to consider whether automatic tax privileges for advancing religion as such are the best way to reflect pluralism and public benefit in a modern society. Religious charities that provide care, education or support would still qualify like any other group meeting those criteria. The deeper challenge is to find a framework that respects conscience and belief without giving any single worldview a privileged position in public policy. That balance is not easy but striving for it is part of the work of citizenship.

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Randy Boehm's avatar

If rights are granted by God and enforced by fallible institutions then the issue is not whether we have them but whether the institutions are doing their job and properly and wisely enforcing them. Yes, there is always the challenge of interpreting the rights, and that dialogue is good and to be preferred to having our government institutions arbitrarily dismissing or revising our rights for their profit and convenience and power. If the government institutions can easily change and dismiss our rights then we will not long have those rights, the past 5 years being a warning of that.

As for the question of whether faith-based groups should be given automatic tax privileges I see no reason to remove a groups tax privilege unless that group is abusing the privilege. If there has been no problem then there is no need to judge a faith-based group.

Part of the reason that I object to governments and institutions sitting in judgment of whether a religious institution should have tax privileges is my concern that the governments and institutions already have too much power and influence. We see arbitrary dictates and we see laws and bills being passed to restrict our speech and rights "so as to protect us" from this and that. Too often that "protection" protects the government and corporations far more than it protects us. Will religious groups need to censor their speech and actions judiciously as governments change so as to be approved for and allowed to keep their tax privileges? If they are not abusing the tax privilege then what reason is there to make them dance for the government?

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Tildeb's avatar

In a liberal democracy, the 'liberal' aspect is the important one: this means each citizen has the same inherited rights and freedoms BECAUSE each individual is born into liberty and is recognized by the state as autonomous in law. In exchange for this recognition and protection of our individual liberty, voting means transferring some of this authority BY CONSENT to a representative in governance. That's why it's called consent. The direction is from the citizen TO the state and not the other way around. The source of that consent is the individual, not some god or king or tribal blood line. Consent in a liberal democracy means the legitimacy of any government rests in borrowing from individuals their consent to be governed. Not taken. Not distributed. Borrowed (and not given to people but Offices). Liberty is a bottom up source of legitimate governance. Take away the source and the direction of where rights and freedoms come from, take away the liberty and liberal governance. That's what you are supporting here.

When you say 'rights are granted by God' you are giving away not only YOUR consent to a different source other than yourself but mine. You have no right to give away mine, no matter how pious or righteous you may presume to be. No religious person has the 'god-given' right to give away my liberty. And when you are successful giving away all of our shared individual autonomy in the service of promoting your preferred 'god' above our inherited right to liberty, we end up with an authoritarian government that distributes privileges under cover of honouring some god but in reality crushing our shared liberty and turning all government into illegitimate bullies. Stop doing that. You literally have no right to do so.

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LWLGWN's avatar

Isin’t that Buddhist organization, their name escapes me, Bliss&happiness maybe? The one that is quietly buying up huge tracts of land and being funded by the CCP, I believe this would hurt their abilities to operate right? Seems like a win to me.

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Maelrom's avatar

If the Libs remain, so will they. Its a ccp front

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LWLGWN's avatar

Agreed

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Kevin's avatar

If you don’t address the factual issue at hand, how do expect putting out symptoms to bring about a functional society? Many are just on autopilot, which used to bug me and now I understand everyone wakes up a different times. So, what is the FACTUAL issue at play? We are under a multi-pronged attacked that has been in the works for decades. In the case of this article, it is religion that is being perverted by the public servants of Canada. Make no mistake every chaotic instrument being used in our society today is carefully thought out and played as hap’n chance. It is not. You need not go further than the UN/WEF Agenda 2030. With the help of Patrick Woods’ book, Technocracy: the hard road to world order, I can systematically demonstrate how they use false narratives to continue their fear based agenda. For now, I can just tell you public servant Carney is following his orders from the UN/WEF agenda to the tee! Are you ready for his next act? In the not too distant future, our central banking system will implode and it will be based on “global events”. Any country following the same plan will yield the same results. It did not have to go this way, just saying. Until we stop blocking reality as it is, not much will or can be done by those on autopilot and those that are aware will tend to their family and communities as best they can. Wake up Canada!

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LM's avatar

It is Humanists Canada who are seeking to remove religious charitable status. They have been lobbying at all levels of government for this for quite some time. The irony is that in the US, the Supreme Court there has declared Humanusm a religion in several ot its rulings. A diety is not required to be a religion. As an organization, Humanists have chaplains who perform marriages and other services and agree with a statement of beliefs (see their Manifestos). Yet, I'll bet dollars to donuts in Canada they'll continue to be exempt from any changes to charitable status. Look up the second Humanist Manifesto to see what they believe - you'll recognize many current day issues and legislation.

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David's avatar

How well will that go over with the Muslim population? I might remind folks the "Lord's Prayer hasn't been allowed in schools for many years. Muslims are allowed prayer rooms in Canadian schools.

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LM's avatar

Yes, well, inconsistency and hypocrisy are hallmarks of the Liberal Party.

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