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ROBIN DAY's avatar

This is a great podcast. A historical context is always necessary to better understand what is happening today which provides a starting point to deal with the political issues, policy and policing to deal with the Chinese efforts to undermine the west on so many fronts from drugs, money laundering, corruption , spying to political influence.

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WideFountain's avatar

Thank you Robin.

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Vicki's avatar

Leaders on the Frontier with David Leis: Jan Jekielek exposes the media's lies. From LA’s immigration protests to the “No Kings” movement, Jan, a senior editor at Epoch Times, exposes how the press twists the truth on Covid, Israel-Iran, trade, and more. He also digs into censorship, China’s growing influence in Canada, and why the mainstream press is failing the public. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHNyEjtSTKc

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WideFountain's avatar

Vicki, you're amazing. If you don't work in PR, you should!

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Vicki's avatar

Good heavens no. I just read and listen a lot.

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Jan's avatar
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The United Front Work Department sounds like the guys who come to repair the water main at the end of your street. Not scary enough. If/when I mention it to people, I get a blank look, as if “Whats to see here?”

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Eric J's avatar

100%. Ignorance is bliss for so many.

In the pre Covid days where I was a gullible consumer of MSM. If someone would bring up a subject that I was unfamiliar with……. I would always ask questions. I find so many today, if in the same position…… truly have so little to no interest.

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Jan's avatar

I also think many don’t really want to know, because the implications are so scary. According to Tristan Hopper who’s written a new book on where Canada went wrong, over the past, problems tended to correct themselves automatically. Canadians got used to that. Now we don’t know how to respond.

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Eric J's avatar

Interesting & Thanks for the reminder on Tristan’s book. I need to get that.

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Jan's avatar

Matt Gurney has an interview of Tristan this week. It’s shocking how things have spiralled downward over the past 15 years or so.

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WideFountain's avatar

Great feedback, but I also consider the North American glass to be more than half full. Yes, many glaze over when you try to present new ideas, but China & Russia adopted non-linear tactics when it was clear Western societies were beyond their reach. They took their best shots at us and WE ARE STILL standing. I know we have lots of clean up (esp Canada which isn’t fair), but our asses haven’t fallen all the off, while the bad guys in Russia & China are really starting to worry.

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Jan's avatar

Empires come and go.

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Quan Lee's avatar

Not just narcotics trafficking but also organ harvesting was an enterprise taken up by the PLA as a means of operational financing

https://organharvestinvestigation.net/report0701/report20070131.htm#_Toc160145113

“ The military, like the health system, has gone from public financing to private enterprise. The military in China is a conglomerate business. This business is not corruption, a deviation from state policy. It is state sanctioned, an approved means of raising money for military activities. In 1985, then President Deng Xiaoping issued a directive allowing the People's Liberation Army units to earn money to make up the shortfall in their declining budgets.

Many of the transplant centres and general hospitals in China are military institutions, financed by organ transplant recipients. Military hospitals operate independently from the Ministry of Health. The financing they earn from organ transplants does more than pay the costs of these facilities. The money is used to finance the overall military budget. ”

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WideFountain's avatar

I read the white paper by a Canadian lawyer about the organ harvesting scheme and it’s a chilling combination of political suppression and downright medical criminality. Thanks for bringing that up.

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Eric Larsen's avatar

Awesome research 💯. Many Chinese people still seem to breech the firewall so will eventually get wind of this, and for a people who place so much value on saving face, the broad international recognition that they are led by a clique of greedy, corrupt mobsters must eventually trigger a powerful reaction in their society. Thank you, gentlemen!!

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WideFountain's avatar

Thank you and well said, but it begs another question: what are the chances the collective West can muster what it takes to conduct a thorough reckoning of the Opium Wars and 100 Years of Humiliation? I think this might be part of a deal for China to reign-in, seize assets, and lock uo the myriad United Front, org crime, etc running around North America et al. Reverse the Reverse Opium War!

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Patrick May's avatar

Deng Xiaoping's state visit to the United States was a masterpiece of stagecraft - Deng is short in stature, and looks absolutely non-threatening. He put on all the charm he was able to muster, wearing a large Texan hat, looking every part the innocent tourist. Everyone in the West was charmed, and forgot what Deng really was - a ruthless dictator, with hands as blood-soaked as Mao or Zhou Enlai. This was the beginning of the "China fever" that some people still have not outgrown. Yes, China knows how to play the long game indeed.

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Wow thanks this was a very detailed history. I only recently started paying attention to the whole Chinese political interference story which then turned into the fentanyl story and just keeps exploding in size and detail. I had no idea of the depth and history on this story. Thanks so much Sam for the podcast. Looking forward to more!

Amazing work from both of you.

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WideFountain's avatar

Thank you, there's nothing quite like working with Sam Cooper!

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